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BigBelly’s $4K Solar Powered Trash Compactor: Making Trash Worse

Jeff Markwardt Friday, November 2, 2007 07:16 PM
TAGS: LIVE, recycle anything

Seattle has introduced one successful sidewalk display of solar power this past year: the plastic card taking parking meter kiosks (ignoring for a moment that they are more profitable for the City at our expense and that they eliminated many bike parking spaces previously offered by the metal pole supported coin operated meters). I was surprised to find yet another solar powered upgrade on Third Avenue just outside Benaroya Hall a couple of weeks ago without having read any press—good or bad—about it. I had to take a picture and throw something inside it—what I later learned to be the most expensive street trashcan ever produced at more than $4,000.

Seattle’s not the first city to adorn its sidewalk with a BigBelly solar waste compactor. The Big Apple got its BigBelly back in 2005. Chicago Park District just this year introduced 25 BigBellies to its beaches.

Other than the argument that these trashcans are ridiculously expensive, Treehugger.com has the best argument against this “solution,” stating the fact that naturally occurring microorganisms in compacted trash do not obtain enough oxygen, and thus work slower to decompose the trash. Treehugger.com suggests that these trashcans should instead be used to compact separated recyclables, reducing service and transportation costs for recycling paper, cans, and plastics.

Seattle City Council released a “Zero Waste Strategy” in July. This strategy’s name is pretty misleading when read in context to the strategy’s components, which target no such “zero waste” goals. As stated in the news release, our city will be capping the waste it sends to the landfill at 440,000 tons annually. “Zero Waste Strategy” is a perfect example of doublespeak. Councilmember Richard Conlin is quoted as saying, “Instead of accepting more trash as inevitable, we [Seattle City Council and Seattle Public Utilities] are now treating waste as a resource.” Installing new trash compactors downtown does nothing of the sort—-it accepts more trash as an inevitable, non-reusable resource.

If the City of Seattle is really looking for a radical solution to address the problems of servicing city street garbage, they should simply eliminate all trashcans on city sidewalks and force us to deal with own trash. Compacting trash with BigBelly only encourages us to create more trash, when we really need to be encouraged to slim down our trash creating and disposing habits.

Speaking toward the possibility of making our city’s trash problems better, Seattle Weekly ran a feature article “In the Future, Your Recycling Will Be Monitored and Dumpsters Will Be Trashed” in September on CleanScapes, a “dumpster-free” municipal, commercial, and residential trash service. CleanScapes was recently notified that they were awarded the contract for the Central Sector of Seattle--Yesler Avenue north to the Ship Canal.


A screenshot from the Big Belly promotional site shows a trashcan full of recyclables and calls compacting "eco-friendly."

Comments
Jeff Markwardt November 27, 2007

Cool. Thanks for the inside information about the placement of future recycling bins next to our BigBellies on 3rd Avenue! No more trash talking on this end. :)

4 cooling November 27, 2007

Hello.

Compact Fluorescents were said to make no sense when introduced.  People forgot about the savings of operation.  BigBelly saves alot in costs and greenhouse gases, it demonstrates a cost effective, high impact way to use solar energy.  The compaction combined with the communication technology that will be added onto the big belly will save more.  

Why trash talk a make sense alternative to managing our trash at the source so as to eliminate the need to haul out the big smelly polluting trash trucks.  

The BigBelly will help recycling.  How?

First you should know that 3rd Ave. is a work in progress. Recycling will be added alongside the BigBelly's.  When this is done the stream of recycling will be less contaiminated as the trash can will not be overflowing and thus avoiding the trash into the recycling can.

You will find that the BigBelly makes sense, eco-sense, and cents.

Hope you will reconsider your negative comments on this.  Take care.

Jeff Markwardt November 15, 2007

Maybe I shouldn't have emphasized the pricetag on BigBelly. I agree that garbage collecting is expensive. Yes, BigBelly's pricetag IS cheaper in the long-term to collect waste thrown in trashcans downtown. However, I don't believe that all environmentally sustainable solutions should be decided based solely on pricetags and money saved. Sometimes what's good for the environment is not good for our pocketbooks--or our City's pocketbook in this case.

Recycling is REQUIRED for City of Seattle residents. (If 10 percent or more of our residential trash is recyclable, the city won't haul our trash www.msnbc.msn.com/.../6945626.

I've counted now three BigBellys planted on Third Avenue, and I think what the main problem I have with these three BigBellys is that no blue trashcan for recycling is located anywhere near them. BigBelly has replaced the blue trashcans for recycling that were formerly located next to the old, traditional trashcans. When the average citizen or tourist is faced with the option of throwing away their recyclables in a BigBelly trashcan or carrying their recycables until they reach their home/hotel/store/office or a blue recycling trashcan, I think the average person would simply dump their recyclables in a BigBelly.

No, you're right, we can't eliminate the problem of compacted trash today; however, we can eliminate the problem of compacting our recyclables with our trash.

If our City really cares about recycling and if their BigBelly purchases are non-returnable, they will place blue recyclable trashcans alongside their new BigBelly purchases to encourage people to recycle when possible.

environmentalprogressispossible November 12, 2007

Uou've missed so much here that your arguments are baseless.  

You call these machines expensive, but do you know what a garbage truck costs to operate?  Typical Municipal collections cost $2 per each.  Do some very simple math and you'll come to realize that typical garbage cans that are collected daily cost $500 to buy PLUS $700 a year to collect.  Over 5 years, what's that cost?  Yes, more than the Bigbelly.  Cans collected twice a day? Much more.   (Municipalities in actuality have cans collected 1-4 times a day).

You say that compaction reduces decomposition.  Well, what do you propose doing - eliminating all compacting garbage trucks?  All transfer stations?  Compaction happens in many locations, because it increases travel efficiency.  

Yes, recycling is good.  No, it's not better than reduction and reuse.  Yes, waste costs a lot.  Yes, money can be saved by collecting 5 times less often.  Yes, garbage tucks burning more than 1 billion gallons a year (www.informinc.org) can be reduced by compaction...  

We can only address the issues well when we are well informed.  Next, we have to be practical too.  I would love it if we could eliminate trash cans and waste altogether.  Practical?  Let's just say, not today.  

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